tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811556140606524073.post6569608801930129677..comments2024-03-24T01:57:23.238+08:00Comments on 漁人碼頭的戰爭 - The Battle of Fisherman's Wharf: Danshui resistance 1895Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811556140606524073.post-6120359395049627042010-01-22T01:00:48.753+08:002010-01-22T01:00:48.753+08:00Dear Stella,
Thank you for your input. As indicat...Dear Stella,<br /><br />Thank you for your input. As indicated in the post, the info is from Danshui town history, see: <br /><br />http://www.tamsui.gov.tw/about_tamsui/index.php?id=12&type=0<br /><br />Have fun!EyeDochttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00406602265159523372noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811556140606524073.post-30787029021653350172010-01-22T00:37:54.063+08:002010-01-22T00:37:54.063+08:00Could you tell me where do you get the news above ...Could you tell me where do you get the news above ? It's really cool and good !I really hope to know where is it from !Thanks a lot! from StellaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811556140606524073.post-45883670636971430382009-12-31T20:12:12.134+08:002009-12-31T20:12:12.134+08:00It is certainly interesting. Have you noticed the ...It is certainly interesting. Have you noticed the conspicuous absence of physicians from Taiwan politics? Dig deeper, then you'll understand why (and who the stool pigeons were). And this is just one part of the 228 Incident.<br /><br />Re-thinking is good. Try 8.8%. Brown's numbers are politically useful as you probably are aware of. The composition of Taiwanese people did change with time. After Shi-Lang died, migrants from China arrived in waves. These were the Hokkiens and the Hakkas all of whom never did inter-marry with the Aborigines. Even during the Shi-Lang rule, Qing officials often noticed sudden increase in Han women and children population in the outlaying villages. People smuggling was a big business complete with specially designed junks. (One was recently discovered, buried in mud, in China.)<br /><br />Indeed, some self-exiled Taiwanese, having been traumatized by the white terror, still care about Taiwan. <br /><br />Taiwan is home to all who care, regardless of race or creed, cozily or otherwise.<br /><br />Happy New Year!!EyeDochttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00406602265159523372noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811556140606524073.post-7664920671836466972009-12-28T21:08:18.084+08:002009-12-28T21:08:18.084+08:00BTW, some people live in the US cozily and still c...BTW, some people live in the US cozily and still care about Taiwan, and not on these terms. They care about Taiwan and hope it can continue on its own way. They've done some pretty hard work to open the eyes of Americans there, and Taiwanese here, on what was going on / is going on. <br /><br />Happy New Year from one living cozily in Taiwan.Patrick Cowsillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12904899672214340947noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811556140606524073.post-2778582360612769892009-12-28T21:04:50.219+08:002009-12-28T21:04:50.219+08:00"The black list, if any at all, was by low-le..."The black list, if any at all, was by low-level people." It's an interesting topic. What do you know about it?<br /><br /> I know you don't agree with the Melissa J. Brown numbers on Taiwanese and Aborigines. Actually, I've been doing a bit a of rethink on it - notice I haven't brought it up recently on my blog. Perhaps the numbers wouldn't be as high as 88 percent.Patrick Cowsillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12904899672214340947noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811556140606524073.post-81390552820647270722009-12-27T01:34:44.888+08:002009-12-27T01:34:44.888+08:00I have looked up the comment. It is a familiar ref...I have looked up the comment. It is a familiar refrain although not from the descendants of the 1/2-Mt people. He was re-packaging racism which is based on ignorance, impeccable English notwithstanding. Also those who live cozily in the US are not the 1/2-Mt people, either - they went to the US directly from China around 1949.<br /><br />The black list, if any at all, was by low-level people. The controversy now is that those who did the finger-pointing are still protected by law (beyond the statute of limitation). This may never be resolved.<br /><br />Thanks for the comment. Have a Happy New Year. And I'll look around and see what's available re the migrant workers.EyeDochttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00406602265159523372noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811556140606524073.post-2039578609494836712009-12-26T13:59:53.697+08:002009-12-26T13:59:53.697+08:00Later on many did return. It is rumored that they ...Later on many did return. It is rumored that they played an instrumental role in compiling the infamous kill sheets during the 2-28 Massacre in 1947. Simply put, the KMT didn't know who to go after; they needed inside info. These people were called the Half-Mountain People. Some stayed on in Taiwan. Others were carpet-baggers, who, after replenishing their funds on the backs of the Taiwanese, moved on to America and other Western destinations. <br /><br />I sometimes get people picking at my blog, telling me I am not Taiwanese and that I don't have a right to have a voice in Taiwan matters. The English is impeccable. Call me paranoid, but I guess some of these comments were made by the descendants of the Half-Mountain people, who are now living cozily overseas (see anonymous comment #7 here on this post: http://patrick-cowsill.blogspot.com/2008/05/four-year-anniversary.html).<br /><br />BTW, I was interested to find information on the migrant workers from China who came to Taiwan during the 1930s. They did menial labor, filling the same role as Thai and Filipino workers today. A few were also professionals. They worked for Western multi-nationals. <br /><br />Hey, once again, great post. Merry Christmas too.Patrick Cowsillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12904899672214340947noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811556140606524073.post-38946631330719180522009-12-26T01:34:14.593+08:002009-12-26T01:34:14.593+08:00It was indeed a bit confusing. Tang et al, the Qin...It was indeed a bit confusing. Tang et al, the Qing officials, were merely assigned to Taiwan (Chiu Fong-Jia was a Taiwanese although an appointed Qing official). They were simply recalled by the Qing Gov't which maintained something like: if you guys wanted to fight on, you were on your own, and the Gov't would disavow any such knowledge. No one believed that China would give up Taiwan so readily and did expect the Gov't to change its mind if enough public outcry. Since these people were just following the orders to return to China, nothing untoward happened to them, except Tang was barred from any government positions for his role in the Taiwan Democratic State. This "republic" was a ploy: (1) if recognized internationally, then Japan would lose the right to occupy and would be regarded as invading a sovereign nation, and (2) to keep Taiwan as part of China until things blew over. 劉永福 was asked to take over the presidency after Tang had disappeared, but he had refused strenuously (probably did not want to offend the Qing Court). He and Tang both had been described to have escaped in drag - the Chinese way of saying they were cowards. Liu and his Black-flag army were famous for defeating the French in several battles during the Sino-French War in Tonkin. The Taiwanese certainly did not expect his running away leaving his army behind. These leaders had all vowed to live and die with Taiwan before the Japanese came. They petitioned the Qing, published patriotic poems, rallied the crowds, etc, that certainly had fooled the Taiwanese. They left with vast sums of silver dollars in the middle of night or in disguise so as not to be intercepted and robbed by the rioting Qing soldiers.<br /><br />The locals were left holding the empty bag. Organized resistance was crushed one after another. A few leaders are now recognized and honored. <br /><br />Of those wealthy Taiwanese who escaped to China, some and some of their family members returned to Taiwan during an amnesty period offered by the Japanese. And at the same time, the Taiwanese were allowed to emigrate to China, very few did.EyeDochttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00406602265159523372noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811556140606524073.post-14943151072251360232009-12-25T14:19:00.854+08:002009-12-25T14:19:00.854+08:00What happened to Li or Jien and people of their il...What happened to Li or Jien and people of their ilk when they went to China? How did the Ching rulers take them in? Didn't Japan lean on China? After all, China ceded Taiwan to Japan. This would seem to be a sticky situation. If China harbored them, weren't they in a way reneging on the terms of the Treaty of Shimonoseki?<br /><br />"There had been no support from China and none was forthcoming, either. Tang Jing-Song (left, the "10-day President") lived out his life in luxury." Why would they? I don't understand the logic; it seems to counter the terms of the Shimonoseki agreement and also give the Japanese the justification to continue fighting China.<br /><br />The continued resistance led to the Japanese coming down hard on the Taiwanese population, see the 1896 Yunlin Massacre, Houbiling, a city near Kaohsiung that was wiped off the map in 1902, etc.<br /><br />"And how did those stranded leader-less soldiers return to China? That is another story." Isn't there a story of one leader, I forget who, that escaped after leading a rebellion, in drag? This is an interesting account of the messy years following China's 1895 desertion of Taiwan.Patrick Cowsillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12904899672214340947noreply@blogger.com