tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811556140606524073.post3646953822416492297..comments2024-03-24T01:57:23.238+08:00Comments on 漁人碼頭的戰爭 - The Battle of Fisherman's Wharf: 淡水沙崙海灘 Tamsui Sha-lun BeachUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811556140606524073.post-70386082541773305782012-07-23T18:47:06.687+08:002012-07-23T18:47:06.687+08:00That is the version currently going around - 林'...That is the version currently going around - 林's visiting 雷 and the narrow escape later.<br /><br />No story is too long or a waste when it comes to uncovering the truth. Please post more or send me a write-up and I'll post it for you on this blog. <br /><br />If you don't mind, may I have your opinion on the martyr status of 雷燦南.<br /><br />林雅湘 also recalls personally witnessing the robbery of Mr Mackay by the Chinese soldier and the assault on some female members of the Mackay household. The robbery is known and during which Mackay was shot and wounded. I am not aware of the assault part. Can you please shed more light. <br /><br />It is hard to restore the history of 1942-47. Oral history sometimes cannot be verified. Corroboration from other sources such as yours is sorely needed.EyeDochttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00406602265159523372noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811556140606524073.post-13687381461703929712012-07-23T10:37:50.764+08:002012-07-23T10:37:50.764+08:00As the story goes that there was only one, 林 who d...As the story goes that there was only one, 林 who dare to visit 雷 when 雷 is home for a week. That is not true at all. My wife also visited 雷 when he was temporary released. As to the story that Lin's mother through a bloom and let 雅湘 escape from back door is certainly not true since 雅湘 never lived next door from 雷. Well, it is a long story and I certainly don't want to waste your page and spoil you Blog.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811556140606524073.post-37112980467963439152012-07-23T07:49:35.691+08:002012-07-23T07:49:35.691+08:00Wasn't 林雅湘 a very good friend of 雷燦南?Wasn't 林雅湘 a very good friend of 雷燦南?EyeDochttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00406602265159523372noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811556140606524073.post-4382797996901380612012-07-23T07:17:24.305+08:002012-07-23T07:17:24.305+08:00Ah that林雅湘. We all know him too well. No one will ...Ah that林雅湘. We all know him too well. No one will take his words without a discount.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811556140606524073.post-58018456357338786572012-07-21T19:12:13.124+08:002012-07-21T19:12:13.124+08:00Indeed there is no such record. Please email hmche...Indeed there is no such record. Please email hmcheng542@msn.com if you have more info. Thank you very much. Incidentally, the beach is now closed to all. Anybody caught swimming will have to pay a fine. One offender has just found that out the hard way recently.<br /><br />There have been efforts in recording what had happened in Tamsui. A memorial has already been erected on the campus of Tamkang High School. And some oral history also has been published. An example:<br />http://www.twcenter.org.tw/a02/a02_02/228_08.htm<br />This book does not mention the student 郭曉鐘 killed near the Post Office, it does contain stories of the following victims:<br />陳能通(淡江中學校長,死難者)<br />黃阿統(淡江中學體育老師兼訓導主任,死難者)<br />盧園(淡江中學老師,死難者)<br />林阿和(西藥房員工,死難者)<br /><br />This site reports where 吳有德 was killed (關渡埔頂):<br />http://www.town-all.org.tw/94viewweb/c28093245/sites/new_page_2.htm<br /><br />It seems 關渡埔頂 was where most were killed. According to<br />http://blog.boxun.com/hero/2006/xsj12/89_1.shtml<br />"...二二八時戴來淡水打死的很多,尤其是關渡埔頂才多。當時我[林雅湘]在逃亡中,只一直聽說關渡埔頂又打死幾個,再打死幾個。我逃的地方並沒有多遠,後來看勢頭不對,要捉到水源地搶武器的這些人,才大跑。"<br /><br />From Mr Lin's narrative, apparently there were other sites in Tamsui, including perhaps the Sha-Lun Beach. Also, another site appeared to be the old First Public Cemetery.EyeDochttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00406602265159523372noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811556140606524073.post-42422932007344528592012-07-21T11:24:04.343+08:002012-07-21T11:24:04.343+08:00Don't forget that there is no record showing h...Don't forget that there is no record showing how many Taiwanese were executed by KMT during the 228 incident at the beach where people are now enjoying their sun bath and swimming.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811556140606524073.post-61876736662856505422012-07-20T20:54:21.821+08:002012-07-20T20:54:21.821+08:00Hi ChoSan,
I have an old photo of me and my mothe...Hi ChoSan,<br /><br />I have an old photo of me and my mother visiting the beach and also remember those black sedans speeding down Chung Cheng Road. <br /><br />I have wondered if the visitor center (soon to be torn down) was the old rest house itself. <br /><br />Also, the Chiangs seemed to have "owned" a villa near the beach but I cannot find any record of it. It may have been the house for training spies and interrogating prisoners captured in and brought back from China. This house is now kind of open to the public.<br /><br />This part of Tamsui was so mysterious in the 50s. Instead of closing the area entirely (which is impossible to do), the Township Office has proposed turning it into a creative culture district. So the beach may become active and prosperous again.EyeDochttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00406602265159523372noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811556140606524073.post-34944552140003864342012-07-20T12:47:40.440+08:002012-07-20T12:47:40.440+08:00Few people still remember the old beach called &qu...Few people still remember the old beach called "Hai Tsui Yet" (海水浴) by locals and I am proud to be one of the few who is still kicking and alive to tell the story. <br />The rest place shown on the postcard is more likely the old style Japanese Ryokan(旅館)with Tamami(畳) floor and Syouji(障子) doors. Guests rent one area of the room with a low table on top of the Tatami floor. The rest place serves soft drink also hot tea. Leave belonging in the room and jump to beach with bare feet from Engawa (縁側), the wooden floor at the edge of the room, we start running toward the water since the sand is so hot. The best treat after the swimming is nothing better than the ice cold water melon as I remember. <br />I saw many faces of the beach from past to present time. I also eye witnessed a young boy drowned at the beach. He was junior at the middle school, son of 許阿火 who lived above the hill, we called 崖仔頂。 <br />After the War, as pointed out by Eye-Doc, the beach is closed down due to security reason. The only one who visits the beach often is Madam Chiang Kai-Shek. She arrives with caravan of black limousines at late afternoon to enjoy the sunset that makes Tamsui famous. Locals always know the Madam is coming when all secret service agents start showing up at every street corner.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com